Blue Orca Haze
breed by Swami Organic Seed
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Basic / Breeders Info
Blue Orca Haze is a mostly sativa variety from Swami and can be cultivated indoors (where the plants will need a flowering time of ±67 days ) and outdoors . Swamis Blue Orca Haze is a THC dominant variety and is/was never available as feminized seeds.
Swamis Blue Orca Haze Description
Coot’s Blue Orca (1983 Brotherhood of Eternal Love breeding) pollinated with an F2 NL#5 x Neville’s Haze male from 1991
Blue Orca x 1991 NL#5/Neville’s Haze
Uniform F1 polyhybrids with a small ratio of more indica or more sativa leaning expressions
Large F1 polyhybrid vigor plants that quickly propagate and develop resinous and often large flowers. Plants can be flowered small or large with yields up to 1/2 lb in a 5 gallon pot.
Medicinal, Sensory Effects:
Slightly sweet to fruity, and sandalwood scents and expressions. Very potent and inebriating, often psychedelic, often introspective, some phenotypes have been found to be the best smoke many have ever had.
56 - 80 days
Breeders favorite, this is a nice fix for the old ratty NL#5/Neville’s Haze. Mellower and kinder on the nerves than the NLH, as well as potentially a bit more potent.
For those in the know, this is the long awaited reproduction BO x NL#5/Haze release after previous consumer testing.
This is a serious NL#5/Haze upgrade in taste and effect,and quite successful at mellowing the classic teeth clenching anxiety of the Haze. Coots 71 Afghani x 76 Thai Stick ‘Blue Orca’ brings on the flavor adding a beefier presoviet Kandahar indica and a top notch 70’s “dealer’s choice” Thaistick which meshes very nicely with the 1991 NL#5 x Neville’s Haze Swami F1 male from Coot.
Very resinous and hardy plants that tend to express uniformity very well, yet some variances still occur. So if one were to prefer a more sativa selection over indica, the opportunity still exists. Again, this is one of the best sativa’s most anyone who smokes it has ever encountered as is often muttered after a session. This is not an exaggeration and caution should be taken or better daily planning implemented considering it’s long lasting soaring inebriation. Very introspective behavior prone, yet for monotonous boring long-houred jobs, this is the answer to the laborious aspects humans often face.
Also a fantastic medicine as a spiritual sacrament since typical “over consumption” can produce a shamanic type of mental space and in some people enhance already present internal personalities, so better to hold your tongue after smoking most days.
Highly resinous flowers with a subtle hazy, yet more a sweet exotic incense scent. Smoke is all old school and predominantly Thai/haze, with deep indica bass notes surfacing after. A proper cure delivers some of the finest smoke on earth.
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Blue Orca Haze
1971 (Afganistan) x 1976 (Thai Stick) = ( F )Blue Orca x 1989 ( M ) Northern Lights #5 / Nevil’s Haze F2
. ” Thai stick 1976 x Kandahar 1971 = blue orca, the ” one ” , mary poppins, the Nazi’s Cut, the Commander’s Cut, Sparkling Crystals and a few others that no longer exist
All from the same breeding cycle in 1984′ . “. ClackamasCootz
The story behind it .
A b.o.e.l member in the 70’s & early 80’s ” koot ” was working in a greenhouse and did an open pollination on some thai stick as the seed supply was low. He had been with the group for a bit and had a 71′ afghanistan keeper at home that was selected by the group. He seeded up his afghan with the pollen from his shirt and passed some of those seeds onto a friend. After seeing some of the plants, they grew out the other 90 seeds and picked out the best 9 and each one of Koot’s contacts kept one as the group was breaking up in the early 80’s.
Koot then picked up northern lights #5 / haze from nevils ” the seed bank ” in late 88’/89 and did a F2 run that year with the most sativa looking plants. He passed the northern light F2’s in 2010 but only a small percentage germinated. The breeder that koot was working with at the time did some back crossing and sold those for a short time. When I ordered seeds from him he threw in the blue orca haze as a gift, he did not sell the f1’s only b.x’s. I purchased another seven F1 seeds when I seen them up for auction, the guy had done some testing and did not want the seeds so we traded.
This is the 88 Northern Lights F2 male used.
Pic is reversed male .
This is the F1 male i found.
Looks like he’s got tons of haze in him and the genetics are unworked on the boel side but they are very clean so I’m excited for the future. He is very stinky in flower, but I brought him indoors so I could re-veg before cloning. His pollen is viable from the seeds ive tested so far & he had no stress issues during re-veg. Never sure with the thai.
I noticed as he sits in veg now the stem rub and smells are more floral and he does not stink as much. We only grow outdoors around 42º so the seasons are short and already looking towards summer as we have about 2 feet of snow today. So I’ll update this thread in the future.
la resistance verte
This is the 88 Northern Lights F2 male used.
Pic is reversed male .
ya, sorry my fault.
It’s the pic gascanastan posted when talking about the f2 male he used. He reversed it and thats the pic he posted when someone asked him about it in the forum. Koot the boel member choose sativa parents in his f1 pack selection, when gas picked his male he said he was looking for more northern lights at the time. Not a 100% sure but i think he had about 30 F2’s max. for his northern light haze selection. Most of the seeds did not pop.
Gascanastan who sold me the gear is no longer speaking with koot for whatever reason & he was only doing it for a short time. His website is down & just noticed post on the web speaking toward the fact the two of them had issues. I know koot was sick at one point around 2010 & thats the time he passed his cuts and seeds to gas. Gas also had some velvet rush from a boel picnic some early d.j. short work i picked up. But the velvet rush are like f7’s and unworked.
A few pic’s of the 1989 northern light 5 / haze F3’s i tried outdoor by me but they would not have finished so i passed them about ten days into flower.
. ” The NL#5 x Neville’s Haze is a very strong plant. PM resistant 100%. super heady 3rd eye all day long without dragging your ass around. Nothing better IMO. A real freaking hybrid. truly a rarity in this day and age.
So looks like between me and Coot we got both old sisters (TO and B0) crossed into the NL/Haze. I’ve got seed but zero room to explore the line ATM.” . Gascanastan
. ” NL/Haze stinks to HIGH heaven BTW. wooooooooo does any carbon filter work or what. I’ve smelled it through 3 types of high dollar filters so far. Then again I’ve run several #’s of the NL/Haze at once.
Comparable to the older fake Kushes like OG,SVF OG,and Pure Kush,Chem,etc. or old school pre- seed bank release REAL roadkill Skunk from the bikers circa 1981-82-ish ” . Gascanastan
. ” I know absolutely nothing about strains offered by breeders. I bought seeds one time in 1988 from The Seed Bank Catalog (2nd page after the order form) – Haze x NL#5
We bought several packs and had them shipped to Mexico and then delivered to ‘the OC’ because I refused to have anything to do with seeds shipped to the USA from anywhere.
I know a couple of things about smuggling seeds inside of surfboards from the early 1970’s before there was a DEA and surfers were considered pretty harmless – Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.
When someone mentions a strain name to me I usually have to send an email to someone to find out what they’re talking about. Case in point that I picked-up some medicine from another MMJ grower in Southwest
Washington and he said it was ‘Cantaloupe’ .Is that a good strain and sought after? I have no idea. I think the grower did an outstanding job and we’re going to legally exchange cuts – he gets TO and I get ‘Cantaloupe’ – it’s all good.
Just for clarification – the name ‘The One’ has nothing to do with the quality. It came about at a ‘come to Jesus meeting’ with this group of associates I wanted out of my life once and for all – familiarity breeds contempt and all. Nothing to do with the strain at all – an inside joke actually ” . ClackamasCootz
@la resistance verte
Sorry about the miscommunication & I’m glad you asked or may not have found the answer.
The picture I posted above is blue orca x n.l. haze F1. It’s posted in another forum under the title ” zazen “. Zazen is a back cross into the blue orca with F1 male. Gas posted under three names & Coot posted under a few names so gathering info was not easy & I wanna clear everything up before everyone thinks that pic is northern lights 5 / haze.
I’d rather not post link from other forums so in the future someone can p.m. me and i’ll send them your way.
These are a few more pictures of the blue orca x northern lights / haze f1’s = ( Blue Orca Haze ) gas posted a few years ago. I have 8 more of these seeds i’ll be starting soon.
But after re-reading all the post on these genetics I did find some pictures of the northern lights #5 / haze F2’s run by Gas & a friend when they first started posting online . & you can see the F3’s he sent me in the post above. My outdoor window is small & the northern lights started flowering later and slower than my other gear. So after 10 days or so I gave them to a friend from my outdoor run but he never finished them either.
I still have a pack and half of the F3’s.
These are the only pic’s on the net I could find of the northern lights / haze F2’s or 3’s. And I could not find a picture of the male gas used.
Hey thanks bro, . hope everything has been going good with your outdoor! Long time no talk .
Ya, the only plants on the first page that are mine are the male blue orca haze & the northern lights f3’s i posted. The rest of the pictures are from the breeder that sold me the seeds. He posted them on another forum.
The orca kicks out tons of frost. This is her more sativa sister, the ” one “. This is coot’s personal choice from the 1984 run. The blue orca, he did not get that cut back until 25 years later .
A cool video on the thai stick trade from a surfer / book author –
. They were know as scammers: the surfers, hippies, draft dodgers and Vietnam vets who flocked to South East Asia in the 1960s and 70s to surf and live the easy life. To pay for it, they smuggled drugs, particularly high-quality marijuana from Northern Thailand known as Thai stick . Now a unique collaboration between a former smuggler and an historian sheds light on their story..
a couple pages from the book, ton’s of great information as the author is a good researcher.
That’s a good account of the story.
I’m holding the Blue Orca, BO x NL5/Haze, Blue Mystic x Velvet Rush, Velvet Rush and a few others.
I ran the BM X VR and did a back cross using 2 females and one male. I kept 2 females to cross back once I find an outstanding male. Most carried the blue color with a very unique taste. Good meds.
Bump and old thread.
Any updates? Anyone else grow either the NL5/Hz or Blue Orca Haze ?
I just started 20 of the NL5/Hz, and 12 BOH. All came up in 3 days.
I don’t have the ability to do pics ect. But I can keep an update.
I’m also very interested in how well the NL5/Hz produces.
I gave my buddy the BOH, NL5/Hz as we are old friends/partners and hes been doing the Mr Nice SSH for 3 years, its time for a change, and I get all of his stuff, as he doesn’t mess with anyone but me. Weve been associates on/off since 1984.
So I decided to totally revamp, and bought more packs of the BOH, BO x RKS Guadalajara, The ONE x Paki Chitral Kush, NL5 x Hz.
I also have Velvet Rush x NL5/HZ but is to long flowering. Up to 130 days. I may start 2-4 of them under 12 hours from the start.
My buddies plants are doing great. The BO x NL5 x Hz is Very, Very compact, with very close internode spacing. It seems so far the Phenos are more Kandahar leaning as they are really Short vs NL5/Hz, or also the 88 Nevils/Hazeman G13 x Hash Plant. I also gave 10 of these to my buddy, and another buddy has 10, along with 10 NL5/Hz, and 1 BOH. His 1 x BOH female is also very compact, and more towards the Afghani side. He was able to tell M/F at 4-5 weeks on BOH. Both veg with 1000w Hortilux HPS. I also hve these but wanted to try the Gavitas. Gavita is supposed to be good for 30 sq/ft. Hortilux is 16.
Ill also eventually get a cut of the Hazeman/NDNGuy/Nevils 88 G13/HP when they figure out which is the best 1.
They all smell really good, with the BOH having a very unique smell very unlike the others. The 88 G/HP is growing as well as any of them, and I also expect good stuff from this. Its Nevils. It should be Killer. nd I notice Bodhi uses it extensively in his crosses. Its also a really good plant, structure wise, especially for an Indica. Its very fast growing. Keeping up with the NL5/Hz, and maybe even a bit better.
I also plan on breeding the NL5/Hz Male x G13/HP eventually. Both are stabilized, and will make F1s. I plan on using these on an outdoor crop next year.
I’m also really interested in the BO x RKS Guadalajara, and will start 51 of them.
I also bought 2 1000w Gavitas, and 40 x 10 gallon Smart Pots, and will start all of them in 32oz plastic cups. Ill veg them with 1000w Gavitas. Will use Promix BX for soil, and Chem Grow fert that is specifically designed for weed. 4-20-39, but you also add extra Nitrogen, and Magnesium. 20-20-39 is allegedly the best formula for weed. They give a specific formula/PPM ect for all the growth stages
I also bought a Reverse Osmosis filter. 3 Stage. Not the very best 1 but good.
The lights are allegedly good for a 12 x 5 area, and will easily be enough space for 40 x 10 gallon pots.
In a few days I’m going to start
18 The ONE x Paki Chitral Kush
Ill then take 3-5 clones of each before theyre flowered, and then keep the best for mothers after growing, and testing the seed plants.
It will be more clones than I want to take, but that’s the only way to preserve every plant, and then Ill cull the others ect.
Also some plants may obviously not pass the growing test and I wont take cuts off seemingly inferior plants. Like slow growth or any kind of anomaly. But I would like to get around 40 females out of 109 seeds.
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